Lyme disease PAIN – CURE – home remedy; previously labelled “No Vitamin D Equals Pain”. Be Sure to read the comments, some really useful info on getting rid of Lyme disease pain.
So, back in October, I went in for more tests because my bones were hurting so bad that I could barely walk. I felt like I had aged thirty years in one. My doctor was about out of ideas when she decided to test for Vitamin D. My levels came back ridiculously low. I don’t know if they were depleted from the actual Lyme Disease or just from being outside less in the summer, but I had levels in the teens instead of the forties.
When the test results came back, my doctor prescribed 2 Vitamin D supplements a day. (Not the plus calcium kind.) I didn’t end up pain free, but I am much better. I went from being barely mobile 24/7 to having a few joint pain flareups a week by the end of January. If you start getting bone pain on top of the joint pain, don’t just think it is in your mind or let your doctor dismiss it as something unimportant. Ask for tests and keep asking until the doctor finds out what is wrong.
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April 24th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
hi i have just recently been treated for lyme disease as well as my vitamin being very low in the teens as well every time it rains its very painful for me enough to disable me is this normal even after treatment , my doctor said i should not be having any more symtoms i think shes crazy or is it me? i also have herniated disc with nerve damage in my legs so with that i havent been pain free for 2yrs
April 25th, 2010 at 12:55 am
Pamela,
A lot of doctors think that. I’ve had Lyme twice and still have problems with flare ups from the first infection. If I stop taking Vitamin D, my levels plunge, despite the fact that I get plenty of sun. It seems to be a permanent “gift” from the Lyme disease.
I did go for several months without any big flare ups, but I just came off of several weeks of a lot of pain and swollen joints.
I have a large number of friends who say the same thing – they have flare ups every few months and when it rains, they hurt bad.
What makes it hard is that I have an equal number of friends who had Lyme, caught it in the first few weeks and recovered completely.
So, no, you aren’t crazy.
April 25th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
thank you , that makes me feel better,i ask my doc for a retest after all 3 week of meds she said its not needed i want 8 to 9 months without knowing i had lyme just thought it was my back problems until i got to the point that if someone was talking to me i felt like i was going to fall asleep on them somelike mono should i ask for another test or is it the vitamin D
April 25th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
does lyme disease effect your vitamin D
April 26th, 2010 at 1:47 am
i am on my first week with out any meds still dont feel any better.i wish i could wake and feel like a new person.i am a active person for the most part i love to plant flowers and fishing,we have a nice boat we go almost every weekend but the pain holds me back from the things i really enjoy.i am trying not to let it get the best of me.you know what i hate the most is when you tell someone you have lyme disease they act as if its a plague and wow how did you get bitten by a tick? sometimes i would like say (i play in the woods all day thats what all of us do when we have nothing better to) But ill be nice “some peolpe who have never been sick dont understand its ashame. i read alot on diiferent medical topics and learned alot its called being aware.
November 16th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Have you had your 1, 25 (OH) vitamin D tested? Alot of lyme patients have high 1, 25 (OH) vitamin D because the bacteria (Lyme) changes it, converting it from the inactive form the doctors test for 25(OH) to an active form and in doing so, this reduces the immune system keeping it alive. This is the theory behind the Marshall protocol. It is worth checking.
November 16th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
I forgot to mention…. and because the inactive form is converted to active form, this means that the 25(OH)D shows up as deficient. I have read online that one Lyme disease patient was deficient in both, but alot of lyme literate doctors see patients high in 1, 25 and very low in 25(OH). I have read on the internet that alot of the Lyme doctors still supplement vitamin D, alot of patients feel they get alot of relief. Vitamin A may compete with the vitamin D receptor so less active vitamin D suppresses the immune system. Vitamin A is an antibacterial found in only animal products. Carotenoids do convert to vitamin A but this is different. Fat soluble vitamin A comes from eggs, cod liver oil, liver, fish eggs. It could be a big part in Chronic Lyme disease, vit A. The patient is unable to fight it in the first stages for some reason. Western A. Price suggests that the healthiest tribemen etc… were those with high fat soluble vitamins A and D. Fish oil seems to decrease the inflamation and the pain and fatty meat/fish, raw butter (OK for some people but not others) helps the fat soluble vitamins absorb. Magnesium, vitamin B6, folate, B12 and especailly vitamin C play a part. Has anyone what got crepitus of the joints? This means grinding sounds when they tilt head back and move neck side to side, or move leg in and out. These sounds are uric acid crystals, for me and many others with Lyme disease… this occurs soon after getting bitten (for me it took four months – I heard my knees make the sound as I went up the stairs). Protein contains purines – these increase uric acid and it seems that Lyme disease (for me anyway) seems to decrease the output of these acids. I was on a high lean meat diet when I got Lyme disease with plenty of veggies/raw salads, I gave up this diet thinking it was the diet, before I found out it was Lyme disease. I moved onto a very alkaline diet, veggies & fruit, soaked nuts, I tried alsorts and got much much worse as I alkalised. I tried barley grass, wheat grass, kale/cabbage, checked urine pH, my skin looked well hydrated but my energies fell. I developed numbness in arms, face, hands, feet, lower leg, could not breath on awakeing. Things were getting serious. The internet save me when I finally read about Lyme disease. It was scary. Doctors confirmed I was fine, I read negative. I came home, face went numb on one side, hands went numb, later in week/s jaw was so painful, legs (front lower part) burnt so painfully I could not walk. neck now grinds, so do both knees. I got suicidal at first, what hope did I have?! I read and still do, but soon I became so diet – chronic fatigue got so bad I could only attempt to sit near the computer, or read a few sentences. Luckily I had alot of knowledge about nutrition and I decided to go on a high fat diet. Pork belly and chicken wings, fatty lamb and nothing else for a few days. I felt so much better and was back on the computer and never got the Chronic fatigue because I kept the fats up and maybe the cholesterol (LDL) bound to biotoxins or it entered spine, brains, eye balls, joints and killed it partially…. I kept up the fats adding some salad foots (no constipation – fatty meat doesn’t enocurage this but lean meat and lil’ vegetables do!) anyway I tried herbs, Teasel root, and many others. But the fat worked. It seems it is not the full picture… It is a huge part of the treatment. Perhaps sesame seed oil may have some special properties, because it has proven to enter the bones, and if you look on the internet you will find it is a special oil (reduces gingivitus by 85%). Looking at the red indians and Westwern A. Price studies I think that is is the cholesterol, some saturated fat from animal source (certainly olive oil doesn’t work, despite its wonderful potential for other disease – one wonderful thing it does is decrease the oxidation of LDL cholesterol). See book Olive Olive oil Health and disease prevention. Olive oil has shown to kill H.pylori, a spirochete in stomach/duodenal area causes ulcers (gastric/peptic) and has been found in the heart. I was hoping that if the olive oil could kill one spirichete it could kill another… afterall it can stay in areas for a while and its the polyphenals that is responsible for killing the H.pylori. It could be that Olive oil does help, but during all my attacks, I did not get relief form olive oil. I put my money on cholesterol, vitamin A, saturated fats from beef/lamb being good killers. Vitamin C sems good. I tried allicin max (proven to kill the Lyme bacteria over 2 months using a huge amount everyday!) Although, aged garlic and raw garlic maybe more whole, allicin is just that and it is very unstable. Keeping carbohydrate very low (veggies, few nuts/seeds, meat (if you have a fatty liver and your overweight) do not have it too fatty, fish , eggs, offal is good). Vitamin C may help decrease uric acid in serum, and I am sure vitamin A plays a role with uric acid. I do not know what one does if one has gout and Lyme…. that is another story – probably would have to rely on raw veggies and raw soaked nuts and seeds, egg white, I suppose. Best wishes. i hope we can put our experiences together and come up with a goof formula/protocol to get out of the Lyme disease cage.
November 17th, 2010 at 12:24 am
Incredible. Saturated fats can do this – the big baddie of the high cholesterol sufferer. It’s interesting how the body needs so many varied substances to function normally, and if we get too much of one and not enough of another, the body just breaks down in some way. Excellent feedback Catherine, I’m sure there will be others who beneift from this information, perhaps even my wife, who is gravely ill, not with lyme disease as far as we know, but with a malody that just avoids dignosis at every turn.
December 18th, 2010 at 6:05 am
Sorry to hear your wife is ill. She sounds like she is eating a “healthy diet as reccomended by the goverment” but if she ate more unhealthy, she would feel alot better! Science has shown that you can’t lower your cholesterol via not eating much of it. the liver makes far more of it and also a high fat, cholesterol diet like other tribes men eat will get your cholesterol down! I have given the appropriate books lists to back up what I am saying, and these books are backed up with science.
The only consistant thing I find is that lamb and beef fats seem to get rid of the pain, memory loss, joint burning pains, hopelessness, all numbness and these symptoms have gone for me. Most of my symptoms are the left over arthritis (grinding) but I am working on that (only butter/lamb fat seems to help, but Ghee should help too) little fat vacoules are contained in the chondrocyte in the bone and if you look at a leg of lamb and a anatomy and physiology book, you will find that behind the patella in the knee their is a fat pad (saturated fat!). Fat is an antibiotic (natures) and 50% of the fat in each cell is saturated fat, breast milk is 50% saturated fats. Along side infra red saunas and low carb (diet of low starchy vegetables, plenty of fatty meat, (maybe butter for some people, but those on casein free Clarified butter called Ghee is best) WORKS!!!! Whilst most herbs will create more pain and even take out fats in some cases. Fat gets into brain, most of the herbs I tried were useless, but they seemed great ideas and excited me of the hope each herb brought, but I did get herxes and relief from symptoms on Pau D Arco, dried Teasel root tea, milk thistle, burdock and the wonderful BARBERRY(NO relief from liver or raw fermented cod liver oil, so my vitamin A idea did not work for me, ONLY FATS seem really useful. If you suspect you have Mycoplasma or your not getting better, have olive leaf extract. Low starchy vegetables are great too. Broccoli/cellery/cucumber is sensible quantities else the fibe of the broccoli will take out fats. If your OK on raw cheese, raw/usual butter, darkest chocolate these have plenty of good fat killers in. But grains/beans/fruit/milk/all starchy vegetables/potatoes will feed it… use fats to kill it and then you will be able to eat other things… but the fat must be high (55g butter and some fatty lamb in a day with low starchy, almost calorie free vegetables).
Reccomend these books:
1. $29 Billion Reasons to Lie About Cholesterol: Making Profit by Turning Healthy People into Patients By Justin Smith
2. Fat and Cholesterol are Good for You By Uffe Ravnskov
3. Trick and Treat: How Healthy Eating is Making Us Ill By Barry Groves
4. The Diet Delusion By Gary Taubes
5. Nutrition and Physical degeneration By Western A. Price
6. Pottenger’s Cats: A Study in Nutrition By Francis Marion Pottenger
7. Cure Tooth Decay: Heal and Prevent Cavities with Nutrition (First Edition) [D.D.S. Timothy Gallagher (Foreword), Ramiel Nagel
8. Cholesterol & The French Paradox By Frank Cooper – Naturopath
9. The Magnesium Miracle – Carolyn Dean
10. Olives and Olive Oil in Health and Disease Prevention
Victor R. Preedy, Ronald Ross Watson (excellent anti-MYCOPLASMA).
11. Olive Leaf Extract – Morton Walker
With Lyme disease, the worse diet I went on was too little fat, then Lyme disease gets you. The king of fats are those from red meat and for some people raw dairy (raw butter/Ghee) might help. It has an anti stiffness factor in the butter, so if your neck will not bend round or stiffens up get on plenty of butter!!! (it doesn’t have to be raw).
January 6th, 2011 at 5:18 am
Hi Catherine,
My wife is now eating more fats, and also taking cod liver oil (capsule) (not fermented). It’s a difficult road, as with IBS, when it gets bad you tend to blame the foods you just ate as causing it, whereas it can be just coincidence. This was one of the reasons why Carolyn cut out fats as much as possible … and her ill health then just kept getting worse. She read your previous post, and is now more allowing of fats back into her diet, and I do see an improvement, though Carolyn is not so sure.
I again thank you for posting here witht his info, and I don’t know if you believe in the Heavenly Father or not, but I believe that if we trust in Him, He will often bring things to pass. So I hope God is directing all this and that some really good results will occur, especially for my own wife.
God bless you.
Kind regards,
Donald.
January 18th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
I can make one prediction. The more fats eaten, lower carbs, where green veggies, butter, cream or lamb, beef, pork fats become a major part in diet, with some fish, seafood, eggs (all allowed she will feel better, but the silly thing is better to think about living life better… in my case it meant “thinking” I was healthier on veggies, less fat… more beans and grain BUT.. once I ate “healthy” I would soon get very ill. Lymes disease is like TB, a very persistant and dangerous infectious that weakens you tremendously… treatment with antibiotics has to be over many months… use to 6-12, now I think it is 4. Obviously staying off the drugs for 3 days might knock one so bad, the infection may persist. I have found that despite the goverment saying veggies, fruit and low fat, it is a deadly thing for Lyme disease patients esp (then there are people like me that have been brained washing thinking low fat, high veggies are better!!!!) everytime I send myself ill thru healthy eating, I have to get on the “unhealthy diet” that is cream, butter, fatty lamb, fatty beef… You do not need loads, you ideally need a good amount with each meal with other foods (eggs contain choline, this helps the liver use fat, preventing fatty liver!). Carbohydrate foods feed the fungus, Lyme disease and possible other co-infections, candida alcians, candida tropicalis, i.e. beans and grains (other carbs) even with whole/fibrous foods, the carbohydrates are made up of chains of sugars that break down into sugar molecules as if you had eaten sugar. Nuts are a nice fatty food, but in my experience they do not seem to have the magic ingrediant in to kill or help overcome TB/Lyme disease. Cholesterol is not caused by having saturated fat in diet but having excess carbs, sugars, junk foods. Our body produces cholesterol… much more than we consume!
As for IBS… I would not be surprized if their are living organisms, fungus, constipation and whatever…. I would reccomend she comsumes more dairy (some organic cream and butter from grass fed animals, I do worry about the issues in raw stuff, but I am well on raw butter and raw cheese and ghee is good too. The fats will help to kill of terrible things in the gut, possibly even mycoplasma, fungus, leaky gut… do not have fruit and take care with the veggies, let fat heal and be the antibiotic… just like TB take the antibiotic (fat) a few times throughout day, i.e. butter with eggs, small piece of raw cheese o 3 desertspoons (30ml) is about 145 calories, of extra thick organic cream for a snack, have a satisfying portion of fatty lamb, size of hand, with the veggies one can handle, ideally with some butter/ghee on the veggies. Let every meal be the antibiotic. Antibiotics enter brain, spine and go everywhere, they can kill candida, fungus on their own, and some bacteria. They help vitamin A, D, E, K absorb better and Ca/Mg. Help make hormones. The ony worry with this diet will be in your head (why do dieticians say low fat? Why does the medical profession say only a few eggs?). Well the medical profession change their mind, they base their research on feeding rabbits the fat and it goes wrong (they eat grass not fatm they are not like us physioloigcal speaking) – we as a nation are getting fatter and fatter, yet our saturated fat consumption has decreased and the carbohydrate has increased alot!!! In the past lard, suet, bacon, eggs, pork chops, beef, lamb, butter, whole milk, cheese was the norm. Now cereals or toast, margerine, vegetable oil, and man made trans fats that look and act similar to a saturated fat all cause harm. The cereal is refined sugary, processed junk, pumped with so called “healthy synthetic, man made vitamins and minerals” and we are buying it, we are putting the fatty meat down, and when we eat chicken, we take skin off, we have egg whites, vegetable oils full of the exact oil that enourages rapid tumour growth (not olive oil, but sunflower/corn/vegetable/rapeseed oils) it has been linked to diabetes, heart disease. When scientists looked into the bloackages in artherosclerosis, they found the fat bloackage was mainly polyunsaturated fat, likely from veggie oils, processed rubbish.
The other thing is…. if one has a serious infection/s and takes fats… die off will result, this might mean “issues”, maybe feeling more depressed, lousy, tired, but persistance, and regular fat consumption, things will gradually get better. I CAN HONESTLY SAY YOU HAVE TO BE AS PATIENT AS A SAINT WITH LYME DISEASE RECOVERY! With a high fat diet, expect to feel much better (if you do it best- low beans, low grain, no fruit untill your really feeling almost better, but salad and veggie foods, ideally like sprouts which will stop constipation).
OTHER REALLY BIG ISSUE – CAROLYN MAY REQUIRE PSYLLIUM HUSKS – 2 TEASPOONS A DAY – divided up and given 1 teaspoon with at least 250 ml of water, this helps clear colon of horrible things and helps to get rid of mucoid matter (black old matter).
Also, I have tried many many herbs, I really though I could get a herb that would really make me feel wonderful…. never really happened… but herbs for your liver barberry, burdock root are good to help the body fight and destroy the spirochetes through the liver, cleaning the blood. Pau D’ arco, for some is another helpful herb. But unfortunately no herbs seem to do what the fat does. No not the olive oil or coconut oil, I mean the saturated fats/animal fats. Welcome that cream, for get the milk! Eat it like your a sensible person that likes fat. Like putting fat on the strawberrys but without the strawberries (because fruit contains fructose which feeds fungus, spirochetes, pulls out fat like veggies do, because they are fibrous). I know people that enjoy cream and they just do not get the flu, low carb, cream fatty meat. They stay thin, not hungry and feel healthy, motivated, good sex drive, able to live life to their fullest, even at 60+
I hope carolyn is able to have/try Ghee, butter, eggs, cream, fatty lamb, fatty beef,
With the stress and all the annoyance, frustration Lyme disease gives at first might be helped (althought I don’ty know) with EFT, emotional freedom technique, devised by Gary craig.
Other Lymer patients have had great success using essential oils… like a few drops of lemon and peppermint, taken internally, or lemon grass for mycoplasma. I do not reccomend any for now, i.e. concentrate on diet, but also consider herbs mentioned (burdock root, barberry bark, Pau D arco) along side the fats.
Understand the fat to be an allie, taken regularly, being your antibiotic, let it nourish your linings and help heal them, soothe them, allowing vitamin A to get into gut. The veggies have lots of fibre in as doe grain (more) and beans… these can ruffen up the gut and be hard to digest, giving the body a hard time
You will find as you stay of the fat you will get much worse, energy will drop, motivation will go, you will feel like you will never get better and that you have had it… you will think that drugs are your only hope! But put the fats back and gradually as you have more fat at breakfast, snack, dinner, tea, maybe at another time if your hungry you will feel better. 2 teaspoons of ghee, 2 teaspoons of extra think cream, will all add up to helping you and you might even feel it is not working at first, but it will not be long at all if you do not take out the fat with some strong herbs, or too many cooked fibrous veggies (broccoli – so add some butter on it!) you will be OK… also garlic can pull out the fat….
QAULITY FATS! Anchor grass fed butter, organic butter or organic cream, ideally extra thick/double cream fine, Organic Ghee, New zealand mince lamb, NZ lamb joints etc… fatty sausage but any spices maybe a problem, keep everything gentle, soothing. Slippery elm, marshmallow are also soothing to the bowel, but one thing at a time. The psyllium husks help also to get the parasites out. But not flax, it seems to really pull out fat, 39g fibre per 100g, LOL! Psyllium seems a more gentle fibre, jelly like nature when mixed with water, whilst flax is rough!
Donald and Carolyn, I really hope work out. Throw away any vegetable oils and margerine, that is for certain
Anyway sening you lots and lots of love, blessings, Reiki, or what ever you like that is healing… persist, never surrender, keep your head up, try new things, open new doors for healing and think fats.
January 26th, 2011 at 1:55 am
AMAZING Post Catherine!!!
I have been on a journey to try and figure out what diet works best for me for the last 2 years. I have extreme food sensitives that has pretty much reduced me down the the diet you recommend but I’m still trying to figure out the ratios. Your post gave me a lot of new ideas to work with. Thank You!!! Wish I could communicate with you more!
January 28th, 2011 at 3:42 am
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Having organic double cream, might help to heal your leaky gut. If your cells are not rigid enough via too little ghee/cream/fatty meats a low saturated fat diet allergies will be bad, so will asthma and other similar fat associated probs.
Sorry, this is going to be my shortest post, I was hoping to beat the world record’s longest post! I forgot to put my name/mail and the thing said “error” and I lost the lot.
Is their anywhere I can contact you Jeff?
January 28th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Hi Catherine,
I also wanted to add that one of my wife’s problems was an inflamed bowel, which I guess is the same as a leaky bowel, seeing that larger sized proteins can leak through that wouldn’t normally be able to.
This leaking was making her very sick, as her immune system was reacting to the proteins leaking through … So on the recommendation of her doctor, Carolyn went on a very, very, very restricted diet, aimed at removing the specific foods that contain those types of larger proteins and to avoid other foods that can upset the gut when its inflamed – so corn is out, wheat is out, fat is out, cheese is out … Result after one week has been very noticable inprovement – the pain in her bowel has subsided, and she is starting to overcome much of the pain that was essentially killing her. She is unlikely to ever be pain free because of all the conditions she has. But this diet has been a Godsend. After being layed up in bed these last few months, only venturing up every now and then, she is now coming out to join us maybe once a day.
In two more weeks, she should be able to start eating relatively normally again.
Interestingly, she finds cheese, when she breaks her diet, to be quite OK on her gut, but ice cream is definitely a painful experience at this point in time. Sugar is also reknowned for upsetting an inflamed gut, but pure maple syrup is fine – go figure.
But she will need a lot of fats to build herself up again. Interesting, many types of lean meat are allowed, s its the fats that can upset a leaky bowel as well, but not the protein rich meat – go figure again.
This doesn’t in anyway undermine what you have been saying, my addition is to clarify that sometimes really restricted diets may be helpful at certain times.
Kind regards,
Donald.
January 30th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Hi
Actually I have heard that another lady had a fatty liver and was worse on dairy but not on fatty meat. Remember the fat is an antibiotic… when you say she is going to need alot of fat, I presume she is just going to take time to replace and rebuild her cells back up with the animal fats and believe it or not it doesn’t take that much time. I am a believer in fatty beef/lamb/venison other, but less so of dairy. If yoru wife is good on dairy, the fat is fat! Icecream though is not fatty enough, you might be better making some crazy concoction of maple syrup and drouble cream and making your own icecream with some vanilla extract. The icecream in the shop has the sugar in that will feed the fungus/bacteria. I reccomend the paleolithic diet… that is what she is heading towards… no grain, no beans, and having the meat nature would provide, which is relatively leaner compared to what you find in the supermarket (obese grain fed animals!). I can understand how her diet would work. I would not bother with icecream at all! The thing is, the pain in her bowel is probably because she has spirochetes and living organisms (fungus etc…) in her bowel and when she stays off the SUGARS that feed it, which are in all grains, all beans, because these breakdown to sugar and all sugary foods (icecream etc…), but not in any fats, meats, eggs and far less so in green veggies, would explain why she is feeling much improved.
the question and proof of the pudding is, would her pain return if she ate, fatty meat, cheese, and the diet I reccomend which is: No grain, no beans, no junk or processed food, no fruit untill much much better… instead a diet of fish, eggs, seafood, all meats, all vegetables/herbs in moderation. I reccomend dairy to those ok on it and for alot of people raw dairy and pasteurised dairy (double cream) helps to offer nourishment, healing, calories, and more fats.
The diet, that helps us is the origional paleolithic diet, the diet we are suppost to live off until man came along and through unnatural processes and interfering with nature brought us refined grains/sugars, and genetically interfered with grains. We are enourages to eat the grains/beans/processed foods, bad margerine/veggie oils we would off never ate. In fact, the diet that our paleolithic ancesters ate is actually not limited…. in those days the range of animals they ate was huge (snake, insects, various birds, fish, snails, over 800 varieties of vegetation, as for fruit their are 400 variety of species of wild blackberry alone, all with a unique amounts of flavonoids, flavonals and vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients, a variety of eggs, fish, seafoods, root vegetables, and more formed our diet that MADE US HEALTHY… compared to today, with probably less variety! We had pasta, pies, noodles, pastries (ALL WHEAT and not a mixed variety but a genetically similar type, chosen by us not nature. We have a limited amount of vegetable varieties in the shop and herbs, plus our soil is not rich in nutrients compared to the organic soils of wild veg/fruit, meats in the shop are grain fed, obese animals, compared to lean animals fed on herbs, grasses and are elite animals, very fit, harder to kill, offering far more richer, nourishing meat)… as for beans and other grains the argument goes that we are not meant to eat these. Nature has offered us a diet that changes with the different seasons, this includes a diet of some nuts, chestnuts and acorns, but not so much lots of grains which do damage the gut, encourage lots of problems, because the phytates in them chelate our minerals Magnesium, Calcium, Zinc, iron, etc.
Carolyn shows us that if we stick to foods nature provides us in the paleolithic times we will heal of ALL diseases. It is not a mater of taking any foods out of our diet and doing without but finding the right foods that nature says is OK. For example, nature allows us to how sugar, i.e. the sugars that nature offers, i.e. maple syrup (kids use to suck this out of the tree), compared to our refined sugars or the sugars we have interfered with, we are still be in good health.
Sharing Carolyn’s story has been a blessing for me, because it teaches us what nature is saying the OK foods are!!! The fats will heal her again, but I think if she sticks to what she is doing and kind of adds one fatty food, trys it out and then stops it and trys out another fatty food, she will find out/test if they are OK. I predict that all fatty foods from animals will be OK, but the healthiest coming from grass fed, well treated animals! I predict that if she eats any processed foods, sugary deserts, some fruits, grain, beans will all encourage her to be ill.
Keep up the good work!
Best wishes and lots of love!
Catherine
January 30th, 2011 at 9:29 am
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Forgot to mention. Carolyn is likely to need a high fat diet to get rid of all the pains, relatively quickly than if she were treated with drugs. That is because I believe the pain is caused by mircoorganisms releasing acids (lactic acid) and perhap other substances. Getting the corn, grain out, gets the sugars down so these organisms are not being fed. Remember the bacteria use enzymes to convert the sugar consumed into lactic acid. Therefore, obviously the pain decreases on a low sugar diet, but starving the organisms doesn’t kill them, it just decreases there numbers and lowers the amount of by-products or sugar metabolism. But I believe through a terrible time of experimentation on myself that fat from animal fats, for me it was fat from beef and lamb worked to the point where is cleared the pain, memory loss, numbness and the majority OF VERY VERY SERIOUS SYMPTOMS! Sorry, about the capitals, but if only someone could of felt the burning legs, the fatigue I had, the inability to think. It was a hopeless situation at the time. I could not eat the carbs (beans/grains) and have the fat! I caught Lyme disease whilst on a salad/veggie diet with lean meat, eggs, seafood, and lots of fish oils supps! My cholesterol was likely to be just below 147 around the time I caught it, perhaps higher cholesterol via eating more fat might of given me better protection. Anyway, the meat (lean) does produce ammonia as a by-product as does all protein, it also contains high amounts of iron that will not feed lyme spirochetes but would feed other bacteria. It is valuable but to get the calories on a low carbohydrate diet, one needs to eat more fats from the meat, etc. to meet our needs. Meat contains phosphorus which concerts to phosphoric acid, the sulphur in meat/eggs converts to sulphuric acid. A diet very high in lean meat (because we have to eat even more if their is little fat on it) means we get far more by-products, i.e. ammonia, acids mentioned, which the latter take our alkaline minerals to deal with these acids.
Magnesium (Mg), potassium (K), calcium (Ca), sodium(Na) are the alkaline minerals, ALL FOUND IN VEGETABLES! Natural forms of sodium that the body likes and calcium, potassium is high in celery, Broccoli, kale, cabbage is quite high in potassium, calcium, magnesium. These help our body to provide ALKALINE MINERALS, so we can neutralise excess acids which are brought about by the consumption of grain, meats, eggs, fish etc.
Anyway, the fats do contain some acids, yet they do not contain the very strong acids that meat does. The fat off the meat does not contain phosphorus, sulphur, so it will not turn to sulphuric/phosphoric acids! Therefore, a diet with lean meats for breakfast, dinner, tea and maybe a snack can lead to acidosis, over time the minerals like calcium and magnesium etc.. will be lost and this will lead to thinning bones! The milk also contains acids which can take the minerals, even though it provides some. Nature offers a huge variety of bitter veggies for this reason. The answer would be to reduce the overall amount of lean meat consumption by having some fat on the meat, so the calories are substantial enough, so the person doesn’t need to eat ‘excess’ meat. A diet of a portion of fatty meat or fatty animal food with veggies makes it overall less acidic. Also, the fats enable the body to better digest and handle the protein. Fats help the calcium be better absorbed and help lubricate joints, provide the fats we need for increased cholesterol to make hormones, so we can have healthy sex drive and healthy adrenal hormones so we don’t break down via stress! I actually could not stop my gums bleeding, years ago on a high fruit and veggie diet, which I could not work out because they usually says it is a matter of raising the vitamin C. It was only when I put the fats in my gums stopped bleeding. It seems to look after our cells, help them to be strong, and it’s anti microbial activity helps to deter all types of infection.
A high protein with little fat is lethal! Rabbit fever (what one gets if they just eat lean meat, little fat) and a state of constant hunger occurs if a person get rid of fats and eats the leanest of the leanest meats. Tribemen NEVER eat the leanest of the leanest meats because it would make them dangerously ill/toxic. Pemican is made via indian ribe, with 50% fat and lean protein mixed, sometimes with berries.
If one eats lean meat and some fatty dairy that is fine. Pork chops with the fat is fine, fatty lamb, fatty of beef all fine.
Also, eating too much fat is a problem. Eating a very high fat diet, especially from grain fed animals, and dairy all lead to encouraging a fatty liver, insulin resistance and generally will lead to unhealthy blood. Eating the fats as nature provides is best. But if one finds out that fat does indeed have an antibiotic role, having huge amounts of fats by the tablespoons per day and a little protin, some veggies will lead to a sluggish liver, blood that coagulates and if you look at live blood analysis (get a microscope) and look at blood on a low carb, mega fat, some protein, you will find it doesn’t look healthy! So have fats is healthy portions with some protein and veggies. I think most of us would choose a sensible amount, i.e. even a third of a pot of cream (79ml) with flax and barries is a healthy breakfast for man, I know, who doesn’t get colds/flu, he is active everyday and hard working despite being 60, and is full of life. Now i know that is not that old, he is not settling down or going on the meds similar men at his age are doing! He is at the right way, not got the middle aged spread. A diet with more fats is not very expensive either. i remember him telling me he never got the flu despite his wife who was full of the flu, sleeping next to him, also he used the same tiolet, took care off her and never got it. He ate protein with skin/fat on for dinner and a half a plate of green veggies like broccoli, cabbage, broccoli, onion, sprouts for tea along with some fatty meat. He ate nuts like macadamians, walnuts, as a snack. Supplements 1 Marine lipid fish oil or 1 cod liver oil per day.
February 1st, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Admin…are you able to give Catherine my email address? I’m hesitant to publish it.
Thank you!
February 1st, 2011 at 7:09 pm
I won’t go into my whole history, but from the day lyme became serious enough to keep me from working I noticed my diet was a factor.
First things to go were alcohol, sugar, dairy (I was brainwashed back then just using low fat/non fat), beans and grains. This was without ever picking up a book or researching…I was just listening to my body. Over course when I started trying to find books on the proper diet they all lead me to lean meats, low fat, high veggies and I would get worse.
Have either of you read either of the books on Metabolic Typing? Finally last year I did and discovered I was a protein type and I was suppose to be eating more fats/protein, but that directly conflicted with most of the “lyme diets” I was reading so I didn’t really commit fully. Either way I did improve, but then unfortunately a well intentioned naturalpath got a hold of me insisting I get alkaline…I even got a juicer. All made me worse…At first I thought they were healing reactions but sadly they weren’t and I got worse and worse…more time wasted.
Luckily last week I just happened to take my Metabolic Typing Books off the shelf and then I came across your amazing posts Catherine. Since Thursday I have been eating the following:
Grassfed beef, lamb, bison, dark meat turkey (some), salmon (some)
Low carb veggies. Even carrots are too much for me. I think I have bloodsugar/insulin issues.
Liberal amounts of fat in the form of butter & coconut oil on the veggies.
Most exciting of all is after 2 years of no dairy I’ve added. Raw Cheese as well as full fat Cottage Cheese!!!!! So good. I pretty much put that on a lot of my veggies as well.
Also about 3-4 good sized handfuls of walnuts, pecans, almonds & macademias.
My body is in heaven…I hope it lasts! =)
I also have read all the paleo books and have totally given up on legumes and grains. I do seem to like dairy though so I suppose I am conveniently sidestepping to the “Primal Blueprint” type thinking where he isn’t totally against dairy.
I will continue to totally stay away from fruit as well. My natural instinct is to keep trying to push the limits, but I am so happy with the above that I want to see it work it’s magic. The most exciting thing for me is that it mirrors what you are talking about Catherine and I believe you have lyme as well. What I am hoping is this lifts my immune system to a whole other level!!! Thank you again. If the admin is not able to give you my email we will work something out.
February 1st, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Article on Animals Fats and Clearing Neurotoxins. Good stuff.
http://westonaprice.org/environmental-toxins/240-health-hazards-of-mercury.html
February 3rd, 2011 at 7:06 am
THIS IS JUST FOR EDUCATION PURPOSES AND I DO NOT INTEND TO TREAT OR DIAGNOSE ANYONE. I AM NOT A DOCTOR. PLEASE SEE YOUR
DOCTOR IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS. PLEASE DO NOT FOLLOW ANY ON MY IDEAS UNLESS YOU HAVE SEEN YOUR DOCTOR FIRST.
Dear Jeff and everyone!
I feel that the metabolic type is bizare! I would “rationalise” that surely any blood type would need to go on our origional paleo diet in order to starve the bacteria (TB/Lyme), kill it and protect the body from it’s dangerous biotoxins – Liposaccharides/spores! Maybe having more veggies maybe prefered for some, but the saturated fats, fatty meats, seem a staple on a diet to fight TB or Lyme disease. Accept some out their will not take me seriously, and some that do take me seriously will not remove the grain and beans! The diet has to be just right and your diet Jeff is in the range, I know this because your getting better, I can predict your going to be “better” because I can see the signs “fatty lamb and beef” and “fatty raw cheese”. The nuts and green veggies will provide calcium, manganese, magnesium, boron, vitamin E and everything that grain/bean would give you, but better! Your handling quite alot of carbs…. almonds are about 13g carb per 100g. Some raw foodists would say “Jeff, you must soak all your nuts, in water, overnight in the fridge, it is essential you do this to remove the phytates, which bind to the minerals like grains/beans do, and remove other things via soaking them, as all the other animals do!”. Squirrels put acorns underground which soaks them and nuts have alot of phytates in that can be harmful if your eating alot of them. So…. SOAK YOUR NUTS!
Interesting you mention no fish, seafood, but mercury maybe on your mind. From my previous experience I got worse on fish oil and scientists have shown it reduces the NK cells by 48%… take a look:
http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.med.nutrition/2009-02/msg00010.html
Jeff, your diet is excellent. It will hold your Lyme in control, but eradication, I predict, will not occur yet. Now I had a theory that if saturated fats like raw cheese, lamb and beef fats were the so called antibiotic, you would have to be on your antibiotic strictly taking it regularly like doctors order… for many many months, maybe a reality of years! The Lyme bacteria can encyst for 6 years! The cysts can be their when all bacteria has been killed off. I suspect fungal forms after feeling lyme symptoms and seeing things but I might be wrong, could be just enocuraged via the Lyme. People that have been bitten by ticks may have Mycoplasma, and this is a bacteria fungus. Lyme is found in 4 forms according to science and it takes alot to kill them all! The fat seems to be a persistant killer of fungus. Fat can stick to linings and be their to kill of unwanted stuff.
Jeff, How long have you had Lyme disease? What were your symptoms, i.e. any numbness/BURNING of limbs, memory loss, balance issues, depression, fatigue?
When your body went down hill what symptom came and what came first, i.e. was it sugary food and fatigue?
Your diet sounds anti-lyme. The fruit is a very iffy part, and I am studying fruit as we speak. Apples contain lots of apple pectin (link deleted as may have breached copyright) – now if you can’t have fruit, what is stopping you taking the probiotioc “apple pectin”. It is likely to raise your good bacteria and you need all all your head quarters working! Malic acid which counteracts uric acid obtained from meat, by-product of metabolism. Potentially for those with crepitus, i.e. a grinding/crackling knee, taking malic acid might dissove some of the calcium deposits. Fruits contains anthocyanins, bioflavanoids (also in the white rind of the orange/lemon/grapefruit!) Ellagic Acid
in in rasberries but also in the leaves!!! These act to look after yor capillaries, tiny blood vessels, act as antiinflammatories, and help you heal, raise cartilage. Now some patients are using IV vitamin C, it has shown to decrease spirochetes. Vitamin C has shown to decrease spirochetes in the stomach as well…. preventing the risk of Helicobacter pylori infection (symptoms, very bad heart burn, gnawing pains/ulcer, ill on alot of foods, breathign probs, relief on eating.. what to do (see doctor!) – mastic gum capsules before bed/empty stomach, stop spices, fruit, alcohol, all greasy/fatty foods untill your better, get relief from milk of magnesia!) They are seasonal foods, but I think they are a big problem for people suffering from Lyme disease because they take out the fats, encourage fungus. BUT…. they contain valuable ingredients… firstly the vitamin C can be obtained by you consuming green peppers (about 5g per 100g), broccoli, cabbage. Tomatoes maybe a real issue, yet the contain lycopene and in small amounts maybe OK (carb is 3.1g per 100g). Citrus fruit pulls out toxins, pulls out fats, cleans body. Lemons are low in carb, yet, I think they maybe lethal for alot of Lymies but when symptoms decrease to nothing over some years, getting in some flavonoids/flavones/flavonols, could be via your own home made lemonade in small doses! All fruit is likely to have some fungus on it. Some use a special wash to decrease it.
Jeff your on another level to the rest. The saturated fat in your diet, the low carbohydrate from leaving beans/grains gets the cholesterol up. Even the bad cholesterol (LDL) becomes a good form on yoru diet, changing from the low molecular size to a higher molecular size! The doctors do not measure what type of LDL you have! Low carbohydrate experts do!
February 3rd, 2011 at 7:10 am
Anyway, I want to open more doors to let out the spirochetes!
http://spirochetesunwound.blogspot.com/2010/07/antigen-presentation-in-bloodstream-how.html
Firstly, DOOR 1 that allows the spirochetes to be killed/taken out of one door is via the help of the liver. they say in order to eradicate Lyme disease we need to get the NK cells up (CD57) which studies have said Reishi mushrooms have helped (I never took any to find out!). Mushrooms contain vitamins D2 as well : ). Anyway, a huge proportion of the natural killer T cells are in the liver, check out these dudes, they wear their sunglasses all day, and are mobile looking out for viruses/bacteria, and are the coolest characters I have met in association of defeating Lyme disease. They want to take out and ENGULF our SPIROCHETES! They are concentrated in the liver and clean out our blood. Our blood can be influenced by our bowel (must be healthy, speak later on this). They are not the full story, but a massive player. We must look after our liver, improve these NKT cell numbers. How? I think we can do it by eating more cruciferous green vegetables (broccoli/kale/cabbage/cauliflower) and eggs, bitter herbs!!! Cruciferous vegetables (Indole-3-Carbinol, Sulforaphane, Crambene)
(this link deleted as it appears to violate copyright)
Liver herbs
Barberry, milk thistle, artichoke, burdock root
Liver detoxification
http://www.shareguide.com/liver.html
http://www.ei-resource.org/myblog/Foods-and-Supplements-to-Balance-Phase-1-and-Phase-2-Liver-Detoxification.html
Dipropenyl Sulfide (onions)
February 3rd, 2011 at 7:11 am
Door 2 (bowel)
Psyllium husks, custom probiotics (50 billion bacteria per capsule)
http://customprobiotics.net/
http://psyllium.co.uk/
It is useful as a cleanser ridding the colon of toxic substances by absorbing them like a sponge. It helps to get in the little pockets in the gut and take out any bad matter/parasites. It is a zero carb insoluble fiber so you do not get constipated (even though you will not on nuts/veggies) but it helps to clear the gut of dried matter and get in the places your foods will not! It is a jelly substance. The gut must be clean, it is where the spirochetes live. Spirochetes live in the mid-gut of termites, ticks so why not us. They sleep here, scientists have found them in the gut in man. They burrow into the gut and pass through the liver when the environment/temperatures/chemical signals trigger them too. The good bacteria must be enocuraged, so that we can limit their numbners. A study was shown that neem lowers the spirochetes
http://ars.usda.gov/research/publications/publications.htm?SEQ_NO_115=198319
Aloe vera – heal gut, slippery elm – soothe the gut, marshmallow root – seal the gut, helps with leaky gut syndrome.
Door 3 (vitamin A and D)
Organ meats (grass fed) eat the guts and grease! http://www.westonaprice.org/traditional-diets/628-guts-and-grease.html
and enough fat soluble vitamins
Sunlight, fatty fish like halibut rich in vitamin D.
Door 4 Exercise and sweat/weight lifting. If you have grinding knees, do not sit around, gentle walking is important for you, terrible arthritis get of the fats and do swimming and gentle walks. Bed ridden unable to exercise – High fat diet, low carb (like Jeff’s) should removes the hopelessness, neurological severe symptoms EXTREME!!!!!!! burning pain, numbness, cramp, crawling skin, memory loss/balance issues and crying
Then exercise.
Door 5 Heat and infra-red sauna, steam sauna. Syphilis use to be eradicated with heat (getting body temp upto 42 degrees) and herbs that helped one sweat. Infra red sauna works differently. The spirochete/HIV doesn’t like heat, according to what I have heard they can be eradicated with heat. Hyperthermia gave one man a HIV negative status, also read the olive lead extract book if you have HIV. Olive leaf extract capsules (Swansons) 6-9 capsules a day suppost to lower viral load – prove it with tests! Back to syphilis – such an excruciating and painful disease that some patients wanted their legs chopped off to get rid of the pain. Well, I got rid of my Lyme disease burning pains getting all the veggies out, all the foods but fatty dairy/raw cheese, fatty meat and staying on this diet for some weeks! Then I got back on the veggies, had some fish and exercised. I also used a sauna (briefly because I hated it).
Door 6 – Water, perhaps 1.5 litres. Ideally a water with minumum nitrates.. I have not studied water well at all. Research it, but remember that water devices maybe driven by wanting to make money rather than get you healthy. Their is no evidence that distilled water is better for you. Nature does offer distilled water in veggies, so maybe some celery juice maybe OK, but water hydrates. Celery and anything but water is always considered a food to the body (despite it hydrating). Don’t bother with tea/coffee/milk.
Door 7 Garlic (raw/aged/essential oil/kwai/allicinmax/allicin/cooked) – helps to stimulate phase 2 liver, detoxification, anti-inflammatory, kills fungus, bacteria, viruses, but eat in very sensible amounts. Read about garlic – Diallyl Disulfide, Diallyl Trisulfide (garlic). Take care because it will lower your cholesterol, blood lipids, blood pressure, blood sugar. It does kill of a little of your good bacteria, it doesn’t encourage antibiotic reistance. It has shown to kill Borrelia burdorferi, Candida albicans, MRSA etc. No animal eats it but us.
Door 8 – Kill on the full moon! Have a garlic with fat party every full moon, don’t forget the heavy rock! Old witch talk – have teasel root, everyday coming upto full moon and on the full moon. You can make it out of dried herb. Sweat.
Door 9 – LEFT TO SCIENCE) Anyone have any suggestings? Rife, prayer, meditation, natural healing, xeolites, various protocols, burbur, samento, curcumin.
Door 10 – I know there is more… TIME! Time to kill and allow the immune system to eradicate it and allow the cysts burst (grape fruit seed extract kills cysts!).
Knee arthritis – neem capsules, vitamin D, fats, chlorella (absorb toxins) magnesium,
I presume silica, magnesium gets a big hit
February 3rd, 2011 at 7:22 am
ginger root for knee
February 3rd, 2011 at 10:08 am
I am not good at fixing knee issues with fats. Cabbage and greens maybe needed for crepitus and malic acid, cyder vinegar, see Margeret Hills Arthritis cure book. crepitus can be caused by vitamin D deficiency (apparently!) and a symptom of chondromalacia. Exercise will not fix the knees, glucosamine doesn’t work for everyone and the sugar in it feeds the Lyme bacteria, nor will walking around a swimming pool or swimming in one, according to the kindle book I read on a guy who had knee problems. He did mention strengthening his spine and garlic. I will embarase myself and tell everyone I have crepitus in my knees. I am upset about this. I do not know what to do about it, I need help. It came on after 4 months of been bitten by at least 50 ticks within June/july. But I can honestly say my fatigue,crying spells, numbness/balance troubles, TMJ, burning pain in over IF i do not eat carbs, fruit (I have not tried the fruit/peel) over a time. I do not want glucosamine. I am beginning to think that greenest of vegetables and lots of them will work! That is cabbage, kale, broccoli and malic acid, in order to reduce the calcium deposits caused by Lyme bacteria, in others it can be due to acidic diets. I have read that high meat diets and saturated fats, have been blamed. Also, diets deficient in vitamin D, magnesium, too much grain (acidic). My knee’s seem to need a different treatment, and Lyme diet and arthritis diet can only be worked out perhaps if one has LOTS OF GREEN VEGGIES! The fact they alkalise seems to be important, and there mineral content maybe involved, they have anti spirochete activity, help liver clear blood, so maybe the joints get clear, they are an antiinflammatory. Maybe they provide a mysterious ingrediant. Some people have mentioned fermented vegetables, garlic. I WANT MY KNEE’S BETTER AND THEY ARE GOING TO GET BETTER! But if anyone has any good advice, (don’t want drugs) I am ready!
Jeff! When your ready, maybe in a few months, I do not know. I have just thought of a great (UNTESTED!) way you can eat apples/other veggies. They are a prebiotic, gr8 for your gut, EAT THE PEEL ONLY! Study any veggie, even a carrot and you will find all the goodness is right on the outside, so is the fibre (the juicer usually takes this bit, LOL!). The fruit and veggies have the most alkoloids and nutrients (antioxidants) in order to protect themselves from insects and micobes etc. If we eat the outside, we get more fibre, more nourishment, minerals and vitamins, less carbs/sugars. We get more sprays, pesticides as well, so buy organic fruit or eat wild/garden fruits skins. Again in moderate amounts.
Last of all, do what I don’t do yet!…. relax, meditate (prayer for those that believe it) read the mind over matter book, use a pendulum for answers (do not know if it is any use, I find it very hard to use), kinesiology can help some (not scientifically validated for diagnosing disease, excellent for muscle balancing and finding weakness’s in body). Spend more time with nature and appreciating life. This is what people realise is important when they to have down a very slippery slope and in doing this (I have heard) can sometimes bring answers that people need that is unique to themselves. It brings answers and maybe healing that I can’t do perhaps. Looking into your lifestyle, people you associate with, reflect upon your life, weaknesses and strengths in order to work on these to empower you. Emotional freedom technique (EFT), Reiki, spiritual healing, possible homeopathy I have read about on the internet for lyme disease in humans/dogs/horses is Ledum 1M x 3 can be helpful. Bark flower remedies/Australian bush flowers might be helpful for those emotionally/mentally effected by Lyme disease. To get rid of some of the alcohol, put drops in hot water, let it evaporate.
February 3rd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Vitamin D – http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-494769
February 3rd, 2011 at 2:28 pm
link returned 404 – not found Vitamin D
March 19th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Apple peelings might be not only good fibre, but great for phenolics/flavonoids/bioavailable catechins.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC442131/